The only witness today was J\u00fcrgen Zweigert, a former domestic secret service officer from Brandenburg, who was contact officer of informer Marcel Degner a.k.a. \u201cHail\u201d from 1997 to 2000. Degner, who, until being uncovered in 2000, had been been head of \u201cBlood and Honour\u201d Thuringia and responsible for the finances of B&H Germany, had vehemently denied having worked for the secret service or having received money from them (see the reports of\u00a011 March 2015<\/a> and\u00a020 May 2015<\/a>).<\/p>\n Zweigert today not only confirmed the identity of Marcel Degner as \u201cHail\u201d, but also stated that Degner had generally provided worthwhile and truthful information and had received several hundred Marks in payment at the weekly meetings. Degner thus should be considered as on the same level as informer Brandt, working at a high level in a Nazi organization (according to the witness today, Degner had done \u201cgood work in building up\u201d the structure of B&H) and being paid quite a large amount of money.<\/p>\n A further contact officer of Degner\u2019s, Wie\u00dfner, had testified on 22 April 2015 that the file on Degner in the secret service contained only three pages with very little information and that everything else had been destroyed. However, it had become clear based on a parliamentary enquiry that at least 69 reports on meetings with Degner were on file with the federal secret service, and the court had, based on a motion by victims\u2019 counsel, asked Zweigert to read those to prepare for his testimony. Zweigert now even stated that he had seen almost 100 reports and that in addition, there were twelve to fourteen reports written by his colleague Wie\u00dfner and ten by a further colleague Neisen. This peculiar growth of the case file from 69 to more than 100 reports needs further elucidation.<\/p>\n Zweigert\u2019s testimony was also interesting in other regards: he stated that his colleague Wie\u00dfner was solely responsible for all questions concerning the three who had gone underground and generally concerning Jena. According to him, Mundlos, B\u00f6hnhardt and Zsch\u00e4pe had been considered \u201clow level members\u201d of Nazi organizations and there had been no special interest in catching them. At the same time, he also reported that a Thuringian police officer charged with catching the fugitives, Wunderlich, had often been in contact with Wie\u00dfner, likely to talk about Zsch\u00e4pe, Mundlos and B\u00f6hnhardt. Of course, the question is why there was a need for a concrete deliberation of responsibilities and for many meetings between the service and the police if the three were considered to be low level and unimportant.<\/p>\n Zweigert stated that he had only asked his informers for information concerning B\u00f6hnhardt, Zsch\u00e4pe and Mundlos once, based on a request by his superiors. Degner had denied knowing them, he had not put anything in his report. Interestingly, when asked by the parliamentary inquiry commission in Thuringia, Zweigert had denied having received such a request by his superiors \u2013 according to his testimony at that point, he had not asked Degner about the three who had gone underground. Asked about this contradiction today, he replied that his testimony before the parliamentary inquiry had come about so quickly and that he probably remembered things better today \u2013 an explanation that is rather hard to believe.<\/p>\n Zweigert proved unable to anwer many questions, including questions concerning a possible collaboration between his informer and accused Wohlleben or other \u201cThuringia Home Guard\u201d members from Jena, but stated that this information should be contained in the reports he had been allowed to read in preparation for his testimony. Accordingly, victims\u2019 counsel requested that these reports be integrated into the case file before his testimony ends.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":" Destroying evidence was yesterday \u2013 magical multiplication of the Thuringia secret service case files The only witness today was J\u00fcrgen Zweigert, a former domestic secret service officer from Brandenburg, who was contact officer of informer Marcel Degner a.k.a. \u201cHail\u201d from 1997 to 2000. 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