The first two witnesses today were police officers who had interrogated witness Liebau, the proprietor of a shop frequented by the Nazi scene in Jena where, according to the indictment, Ralf Wohlleben and Carsten Schultze bought the murder weapon for the NSU. In court Liebau had claimed not to remember Wohlleben or Schultze asking him for a gun. Asked about his police interrogation in which guns had come up several times, he had claimed to have meant only gas pistols. He had also claimed that the police officers had severely pressured him (see our reports of 7 November 2013<\/a> and 29 January 2014<\/a>).<\/p>\n The testimony of the two detectives showed this to be untrue. In his testimony to the police, Liebau had at first claimed not to remember anything, but had later \u201cnot excluded\u201d the possibility that Wohlleben might have asked him for a gun, adding that members of the Nazi scene had sometimes asked him for guns. He also spoke of a \u201cSerb or Croat\u201d who could provide weapons from the Kosovo war. Liebau\u2019s claims to have spoken only of gas guns is thus exposed as an obvious lie \u2013 which is why victims\u2019 counsel had moved that they be laid down in the minutes as evidence for the crime of perjury.<\/p>\n Liebau was the first of the witnesses testifying in court who played the game of not remembering, denying and playing down. It is thus to be welcomed that the court follows this issue further. However, today\u2019s testimony also showed that Liebau\u2019s \u201cmemory gaps\u201d had already arisen in his police testimony \u2013 showing that the court should have been less forgiving with him in his testimony in court.<\/p>\n Another police officer reported on a search of Zsch\u00e4pe\u2019s apartment in January of 1998, which netted a number of weapons (a crossbow, a slingshot, knives etc.), a Nazi flag and an early version of the \u201cPogromly\u201d board game (on which see yesterday\u2019s report<\/a>). These items again show that Zsch\u00e4pe was deeply invested in Nazi ideology and violence-prone already in 1998.<\/p>\n The day concluded with statements and motions. Victim\u2019s counsel Dr. Mehmet Daimag\u00fcler made a statement concerning the testimony of a neighbor from the Polenzstra\u00dfe and the \u201cGerman Normalcy\u201d shown in her statement (see our report of 3 February 2014<\/a>). Victim\u2019s counsel Peer Stolle moved that several superior officers of the two Heilbronn victims be called to testify in order to clear up whether the attack was directed against the two victims specifically or against the police in general (see our report of 21 January 2014<\/a>). Finally, victim\u2019s counsel Seda Basay called for the testimony of a detective from the \u201einvestigative group personal networks\u201d of the Baden-W\u00fcrttemberg office of criminal investigations. This detective would be called to testify on connections of the NSU to the federal state of Baden-W\u00fcrttemberg \u2013 inter alia on the statement of a witness that at the time of the Heilbronn attack, she had seen Zsch\u00e4pe roughly 35 kilometers from the crime scene.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":" Once more concerning witness Liebau The first two witnesses today were police officers who had interrogated witness Liebau, the proprietor of a shop frequented by the Nazi scene in Jena where, according to the indictment, Ralf Wohlleben and Carsten Schultze bought the murder weapon for the NSU. In court Liebau had claimed not to remember […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-462","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-allgemein"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.nsu-nebenklage.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/462","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.nsu-nebenklage.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.nsu-nebenklage.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.nsu-nebenklage.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.nsu-nebenklage.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=462"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.nsu-nebenklage.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/462\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.nsu-nebenklage.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=462"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.nsu-nebenklage.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=462"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.nsu-nebenklage.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=462"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}